Does Morality Come From Religion, Or Are We Born With a Sense of Morality?

I ran across this study, publicized on the CBS news show 60 Minutes tonight about morality. It poses the question of whether or not infants have a sense of morality, or can even comprehend in any what morality is.

In the study, infants watched a puppet show with actions being performed by a "nice" or "mean" puppet, and then find out which puppet the baby then prefers. Three quarters of the time, the baby reaches for (or stares for a prolonged time if if they can't reach well yet), the "nice" puppet. Infants as young as three years old clearly show a preference.

It begs the question then as the blog Debunking Christianity, which brought the study, and the 60 Minutes segment to my attention says: Does morality come from God, or are we born this way?

There are many people in this world, that feel that morality can only come from religion, but many of the better rules for living such as the Golden Rule, are found in many different religions and cultures.


How is it that people from different religions and cultures, that had little contact with each other came up with extremely similar rules?   It's because it is common sense. We know that harming others is wrong, with or without a religion or holy text to tell us this, or without threat of eternal punishment/reward.

As Einstein once said about religion, "If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.". 

I think morality came before religion, religion is both an attempt to put morality into a formal code/system, and it was also a way to explain the natural world, which people knew little about when religion first came about. For instance, the ancient Greeks did not know what caused lightening, so they explained it by saying that it was a result of Zeus hurling down thunderbolts from Mount Olympus when he was angry.

It is no coincidence that if you look at many of the more powerful and well known ancient cultures, that the chief gods in their hierarchy was a god that had control over some aspect over nature (a sun god, a fertility god that held power over fertility of both crops and of reproduction). People have for many centuries longed for control over the uncontrollable (maybe if I pray to this god enough, this will happen). It gives a sense of comfort, lead us to think that we have more power and control over the world and circumstances than what we do. 

For many in our modern culture, the thought that one can escape the suffering of this world for a better place in the afterlife, and that those who cause that suffering will be punished is comforting to them, because it makes them feel that there is a sense of justice in this world, and that our choices can affect our destiny in the afterlife.

Those were the reasons for the origins of religion, and though misguided, you could say that they were understandable, and in some cases noble intentions. The problems in religion started when people started noticing how devoted adherents were to their religion, and decided to take advantage of that. A marriage made in hell (no pun intended) resulted between governments and religion. Religious leaders and government leaders became one and the same in many instances, or the government leaders were nothing more than puppets of the religious leaders.

This was the beginning of much of the suffering in this world, the formation of what I prefer to call fundamentalism. The leaders of nations and cultures started exploiting the masses and using faith as an excuse to control, abuse, and even kill people. "Common enemies" were created out of people around them to unify them to fight (and also to unify them behind their leaders).

 Wars even up to today point directly at this. The present day Israel-Palestine conflict, though it may not appear to be about religion on the surface, actually is all about religion. Both sides want the same land,  because historically it has belonged to both sides, but more importantly, there are holy sites from both religions there in Jerusalem, whoever controls that area has possession of the holy sites. There is a reason Israel is often called the "Holy Land". Both feel that because of their faith, they right a right to control the
area.

Fundamentalism leads to people feeling that anyone who isn't "one of us" is evil, it leads to people shutting themselves out of the world around them, and it leads to hate of other people. The isolation, combined with a culture of too much reverence and unquestioned loyalty to leaders sets up a situation where horrific abuse can occur, in the US, no better group shows this mentality than the Independent Fundamental Baptists, which I blog about often.

Morality is something we are born with, morality formed religion, not vice versa as fundamentalists claim, if that were true, then why is it that fundamentalism is responsible for a large portion of the suffering in this world?





(Sheldon's note, hat tip to the page, Atheist ® for posting the bumper sticker picture above on Google +)

Reactions to Libya embassy attack

I don't get what it is about Islam being the most easily offended religion in the world. Of course many religious people get offended quite often, but the relative ease of offending Islam, and the extreme reactions from Muslims are without equal in the world. I've never heard of Buddhists rioting and burning embassies because someone made a mocking representation of Buddha. (Maybe it has happened before, but apparently not in modern times, I've never heard of such a things). Sure, people claiming to be Christian have committed violence in the modern era, (remember Eric Robert Rudolph the Olympic Park Bomber?), but such violence usually is rare, and is part of a militant movement, not usually a reaction to a specific event, or offending incident (and usually most in Christianity condemn such violence, and don't try to make excuses for the people committing the violence). Say what you will about Christianity, it's my former faith, so I know how bad many of the fundamentalists can be, but at least it's left it's violent past behind for the most part.

Maybe all this is violence is due to that Islam is a religion that was created for the purpose of world domination, all that constant clamoring for war, plus Islam's violent history makes people itching for a fight, and eager for an excuse for war. When you get that many angry, gullible people under one umbrella, bad things can happen, as Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" How very true.

The libertarian side in me wants to say that we just just get out of the Middle East all together, I know Islam is violent anyway, but having US troops in many Middle East nations isn't helping anything.Terrorist groups often use anger at the fact that foreign troops are in their nations to whip up hatred against the US, and recruit more members. For instance, when Ayatollah Khomeini tried to recruit people to revolt against the Shah of Iran in the 1970's with propaganda urging people to take part in his "holy war", not many people showed up, but when he brought up the fact that the unpopular shah was put in power by the US and England during the CIA/MI6 backed Operation Ajax coup of 1953 (click the link to read about that interesting bit of history most people have never heard about), he not only got himself quite a few followers, but people we so enraged, it led to the 1979 US embassy invasion and hostage taking. Bin Laden also used a similar strategy to recruit followers in the 90's, with his constant railing against US troop presence in his homeland of Saudi Arabia, which is also home to Islam's holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

I say let's get out, and let the Middle East be it's regular (let's go back 1,000 years) backwards self. Our presence in the Middle East is only fanning the flames even more, and Muslims over there already fighting among themselves so much, that maybe they'll forget that we exist.... well maybe until someone comes up with another insult to Islam. Anyway, it's not our place to interfere in the Islamic world, and I'm tired of so many people of my generation coming back dead or wounded and for what? Don't you think that we have already done enough to avenge 9-11? Most of the original Al-Qaeda network no longer exists, most of it's members (including Bin Laden himself) are dead or left scattered,  and the Taliban was thrown out of power (though they're trying to make a comeback). Why should we still be in Afghanistan 11 years now after 9-11? Why should we still be in Iraq 8 years after the fact that we never should have invade that country by any means in the 1st place? To "spread democracy and freedom"? I don't think they want it, thank you very much, and if they do want democracy, they don't want our Western form of it. Just look at the elections in the Palestinian  territories that put the terrorist group Hamas into power a few years ago, or the recent Egyptian elections which put the fundamentalist/pro-jihad party, Islamic Brotherhood into power.

If we're selling democracy here, they're not buying it, at least not in the form we think of!

It's time for us leave the Middle East, bring the troops home.